19 Jan 2021 1:32 am
@Is a moo cow
@Misty
@Olive Oil
@Phallux the Rat
@Slackvegetable
@TrollingRock
@****** Bana
@Every Cowardly Gender Cultist on this Board
THESIS:
"Transgenders" - meaning anyone who claims to identify as female but has the primary sexual characteristics of a male - should be disallowed from showering with, competing against, or otherwise being acknowledged by society as women.
Argument for thesis:
1. Even assuming "real" transgenders are unlikely to sexually offend (I grant no such claim), there is no way of selecting against cis-gender predators, as the definition of transgender is not objective. It is based on reported feelings, which can be fabricated by cis-genders with predatory motives. Men are many times more likely to offend against women sexually than are other women. Some are quite deranged in their need to hurt women. Most sexual predators are male, and most of their victims are women and girls. Allowing men into spaces where women and girls are isolated and vulnerable is a revocation of safety and dignity and privacy rights that women and girls have enjoyed for centuries, and puts women and girls at greater risk of predation.
Moreover, if society passes legislation to protect transgenders from the "discrimination" of other citizens recognizing them by their actual biological sex, it will be a legal offense to even question a man walking into women's facilities - no matter how sketchy (s)he looks. Such laws empower people like Trump and Epstein and Weinstein, by endowing them with a legal right to invade women's spaces - without so much as an obligation to answer questions about their protected (presumed) "disability." Such laws likewise empower frat boys on a dare, and garden variety peeping toms and creeps. No one can prove they don't "feel like a woman - on the inside."
2. On average, men are stronger and quicker and faster than women physically. Second tier male athletes who cannot compete against top tier males are able to beat top tier female athletes due to natural biological advantages. As a result, men are stealing women's university scholarships, and law suits are being filed by some of the victims of these travesties. Meanwhile, the fake women are getting academic scholarships at the expense of the real ones. This sets women back half a century in their fight for equal treatment.
3. Our sports and facilities have throughout our history been SEXUALLY segregated. They still are segregated BY SEX to this day. The argument that one's reported, feelings-based GENDER should change what SEX-segregated facility one accesses or competitions one engages in treats gender as if it were sex.
Liberals: Are gender and sex the same thing? You all keep using them interchangeably, and then chiding us that they are very different things. Pick a position and stick with it. If they are different things, please explain why a mere gender claim should change which sex-segregated facilities or activities one access by legal right.
1 Nomination
Cannonpointer Jan 18, 2021
Go to original post on Jan 18, 2021 1:37pm
@Misty
@Olive Oil
@Phallux the Rat
@Slackvegetable
@TrollingRock
@****** Bana
@Every Cowardly Gender Cultist on this Board
THESIS:
"Transgenders" - meaning anyone who claims to identify as female but has the primary sexual characteristics of a male - should be disallowed from showering with, competing against, or otherwise being acknowledged by society as women.
Argument for thesis:
1. Even assuming "real" transgenders are unlikely to sexually offend (I grant no such claim), there is no way of selecting against cis-gender predators, as the definition of transgender is not objective. It is based on reported feelings, which can be fabricated by cis-genders with predatory motives. Men are many times more likely to offend against women sexually than are other women. Some are quite deranged in their need to hurt women. Most sexual predators are male, and most of their victims are women and girls. Allowing men into spaces where women and girls are isolated and vulnerable is a revocation of safety and dignity and privacy rights that women and girls have enjoyed for centuries, and puts women and girls at greater risk of predation.
Moreover, if society passes legislation to protect transgenders from the "discrimination" of other citizens recognizing them by their actual biological sex, it will be a legal offense to even question a man walking into women's facilities - no matter how sketchy (s)he looks. Such laws empower people like Trump and Epstein and Weinstein, by endowing them with a legal right to invade women's spaces - without so much as an obligation to answer questions about their protected (presumed) "disability." Such laws likewise empower frat boys on a dare, and garden variety peeping toms and creeps. No one can prove they don't "feel like a woman - on the inside."
2. On average, men are stronger and quicker and faster than women physically. Second tier male athletes who cannot compete against top tier males are able to beat top tier female athletes due to natural biological advantages. As a result, men are stealing women's university scholarships, and law suits are being filed by some of the victims of these travesties. Meanwhile, the fake women are getting academic scholarships at the expense of the real ones. This sets women back half a century in their fight for equal treatment.
3. Our sports and facilities have throughout our history been SEXUALLY segregated. They still are segregated BY SEX to this day. The argument that one's reported, feelings-based GENDER should change what SEX-segregated facility one accesses or competitions one engages in treats gender as if it were sex.
Liberals: Are gender and sex the same thing? You all keep using them interchangeably, and then chiding us that they are very different things. Pick a position and stick with it. If they are different things, please explain why a mere gender claim should change which sex-segregated facilities or activities one access by legal right.
1 Nomination
Cannonpointer Jan 18, 2021
Go to original post on Jan 18, 2021 1:37pm