Safe and effective is unknown. We have no idea what the long term side effects might be. Stating an unknown as a known is a lie. I don't see scientists making this mistake but those promoting the vaccine are certainly guilty.Vegas » 23 Jul 2021, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑ If you can give me actual evidence that we are being lied to, then I would be happy to examine it. As of now, you are just suspicious. I would prefer proof and evidence of you can show me this.