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Retarded conservatives get DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC
25 Sep 2024 3:04 pm
1) The number of people on welfare fell due to the roaring economy of the 1990s, where minimum wage / low wage jobs that only required a 10 minute interview instead of endless, bureaucratic gatekeeping + ATS resume filters implemented by quarter-wit managers and HR **** would let you pay for all your household expenses and have some left over in case you need to get rushed into ER without going into massive CC debtFuelman » 25 Sep 2024, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑ Continued:
Americans overwhelmingly support an effective mandatory work requirement for able-bodied adults receiving welfare benefits. That’s evident in public opinion polls and ballot measures; in purple Wisconsin almost 80% of voters supported this in 2023. The bipartisan effort to reform Aid to Families with Dependent Children during the Clinton administration was a success. Despite the subsequent granting of numerous waivers of work requirements, according to the Congressional Research Service, the 1996 Clinton welfare reforms reduced the rate of dependency of families on what is now called Temporary Assistance for Needy Families by 80%. Six years after the adoption of the reforms, the number of program beneficiaries had fallen dramatically, the labor-force participation rate of never-married mothers had increased, and child poverty had declined. State-imposed work requirements for food-stamp eligibility in Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri and Florida have thus far also been successful. Demand for reform would be even stronger if the public understood how generous social-welfare benefits are. In reporting household income, the Census Bureau doesn’t count 88% of transfer payments made to households that are defined as being poor. The census doesn’t count refundable tax credits (for which the beneficiary receives a check from the Treasury), food-stamp debit cards, free medical care through Medicaid, or benefits from about 100 other federal transfer payments as income to welfare recipients. When those benefits are counted as income, 80% of those who are today counted as being poor are no longer poor, and almost half have incomes equivalent to American middle-income earners. A mandatory welfare work requirement for able-bodied adults receiving welfare benefits, a requirement that the Census Bureau count all transfer payments as income, and a mandate that all federal agencies use the same income measure when determining eligibility for welfare would be major steps toward righting the nation’s finances. Requiring all able-bodied Americans to work as a condition for receiving welfare would do more than reduce the deficit. It would bring people back into the economy, the source of prosperity and economic independence. A job is the best nutrition, housing, healthcare, education, child-care and general welfare program.
When the economy sours or stagnates, which it has since 2008, people will find “creative” ways to supplement their paltry income. Welfare happens to be one of those means.
2) Since your argument is predicated on the premise that welfare has failed due to 5+ decades of the poverty rate failing to decline, let me ask you this:
Since the passage of Clinton’s welfare reforms in the 1990s designed to limit “welfare abuse,” real poverty (measured by MIT’s living wage calculations, which I accept as the real numbers, not the Census’ lying **** numbers) has risen, more and more people are sleeping in their cars / out on the streets, labor participation rate has seen a dramatic decline, and a greater % of people are reliant upon welfare more than ever before to make ends meet.
Does this mean that Clinton + Gingrich’s welfare reform is a failure? How is a greater % of people dependent now on welfare despite attempts to limit welfare access?