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31 Mar 2025 11:00 am
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Vegas » 24 minutes ago » wrote: The part that they weren't oppressed. Pretty much all of it. Let's take an extreme example for the sake of your argument. Let's say a slave was treated like royalty. They ate well. They drank good wine and got laid as much as they wanted. Their family was never separated. Moreover, they lived a long healthy life. Ok, great. One problem - they are still a slave. What does that mean? It means they are property, not humans. They can be killed or whipped for no reason at any time. Property is expendable. They don't have a right to pursue their own happiness. If they want to make money and own their own land or property, that is too bad. their lives have been coursed out already.
 
  • Could they make money or own their own land in Africa?  Remember who slaves are - men (and their families) who fought wars and lost.  What would these "slaves" be doing in Africa if they didn't come to America?
  • How long would these Slaves survived in Africa, after losing to a more powerful tribe?
  • How would these exported Slaves been treated if they remained in Africa, considering they couldn't even defend themselves or their families from becoming enslaved.
  • There's oppression - the type you were describing, and then there's oppression - the type which starves and brutalizes an individual and his family; that's African oppression.
Look, I agree that the 13 colonies would never have formed a Union without acceptance of slavery.  The real question is was it reasonable for White Europeans to believe that Black Africans were simply incapable of living as free people?  I think so. When you compare the ability of an African from 1775 to a European White of the same time frame, the difference in raw intelligence and capabilities were at least tens-of-thousands of years apart. 
 
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