22 Jun 2022 1:10 pm
I have no problem at all with companies that choose to use Union labor. So long as it is the Company's choice and not forced upon them by Union organizers.Cannonpointer » 22 Jun 2022, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑ In the south, you pay more for union labor, because you don't have hiring halls. You pay traveler wages. But you PAY, because you HAVE to, because your non-union Cletes don't have the chops to build a Hyatt Resort or an international airport or a coliseum.
Trade unions are labor guilds - extremely useful to society, as most things that persist over time are. Midwits who hate on unions remind me of midwits who hate bureacracy. Name ONE empire that did not have a prodigious bureucracy, and I will eat my hat while kissing your ***.
Now, it is certainly true that unions generally turn down work that employs non-union workers at any level of the construction job. That is, iron workers won't take the work if the electrical is being done by bubbas. I'm sure they have their reasons for this - and I'm sure I could generate several that are perfectly justifiable. But whatever deal employers make in order to secure the services of guild members are THEIR business and none of yours. You need to mind YOURS - not theirs. What business is it of yours if businesses make this deal or that deal to secure services? No one OWES employers their labor - they have to bargain for it. Your sense of entitlement is astounding.
I remember some years ago a roughneck guy (I'll call him Ralph) befriended me at the gym. He just moved down from Road Island. He was loud, opinionated and had his thick Road Island accent. The guy couldn't shut up about Union this, Union that - was brainwashed to think everyone loved Unions. Well, he voiced how he was pissed off because he didn't make what he thought he should be making and had a hard time finding and keeping work.
I finally piped up and told him "You're a Yankee trouble maker".
Ralph asked "What do you mean, Yankee trouble maker?"
I said "You're a trouble maker, the kind of new guy from up North who starts **** at a company because it isn't Unionized."
Ralph just went on and on and on "Union this" "Union that".
I said "You just don't get it. We are an at-will state, most companies don't want **** to do with Unions - you go mouthing off like that and people will find reasons to ****-can you." "No one cares if you can run wire (he was an electrician) better than some untrained idiot"
Well, Ralph didn't stick around long. He was here all bout about 6 months and then went back to Road Island - pissed off at world because no one loved Unions like he loved Unions. You remind me of Ralph.