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26 Jun 2022 2:35 pm
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Vegas » 26 Jun 2022, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Plato came up with concepts called forms. He wanted to define certain concepts such as beauty, justice, mankind...etc... These forms are to be considered the ultimate standard that the concepts are to be measured against. If there is a better, then there is a best that should be defined. This best is what defines the concepts. However, unfortunately, he never could define these forms. They remain vague and abstract. For example, a man/woman is only a copy of the form mankind. So, a painting of a man/woman is a copy of a copy. 

This lays the groundwork for my thought experiment. We argue much about the existence of a God. Religion will say that mankind is made in the image of God (Plato's version of a copy.). However, mankind does not know exactly what this form is. Science says mother nature is the form, religion says God is the form, Narcissists like @Blackvegetable  says that he is the form...etc...

We are in a age of building humanoid robots that can think on their own. Their form would be us humans. We made them in our image. However, that leads to a question. What if we are AI bots for a species that we are unaware of? We use algorithms, electrons, and metal to dictate the behavior and thoughts of humanoid bots.

We are made up of DNA and cells that dictate our behavior and thoughts. We are unaware of this form to which we are copies of. Likewise, wouldn't AI bots be unaware of us?

In conclusion: Two questions: 

1. What if we are AI bots for a species that we are unaware of?
2. would AI bots be unaware of us?

Prediction
1. Veghead will say "you are a **** moron."

no...human beings are clearly a product of evolution. 

All of our behavior can easily be explained and predicted from the lens of reproductive fitness. 

Reproductive fitness of the TRIBE, mind you. Because that is all that actually matters from a macroscopic perspective. Yes individuals will sacrifice themselves..just like ants and bees will sacrifice themselves for the hive...but they do so in hopes of increasing the reproductive fitness of the tribe. 

Gene replication does not objectively benefit any entity we know of. Not even ourselves...since the desire to survive itself is simply a preference we happen to be programmed with. 

Considering these facts it is very difficult for me to imagine...even if we were created artificially...then by whom and to what end?
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