My Thought Experiment on Artificial Intelligence. Long, so if you don't like philosophy, you wont read this. Post #80044 • Liberal Forum

Skans » 27 Jun 2022, 7:35 am » wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2022, 7:35 am
I will attempt to answer these questions by making a couple of assumptions:

First Assumption
What we call "God" could be such a species you describe. If we take the existence of God as true, then God told us he gave mankind "free will". We are pretty much left to our own actions and deeds which seemingly have no unified or unitary purpose. So, even if we are machines created by the All Might, or even another race of non-humans, then we do not meet the definition of a AI Bots. There is no seeming intention to make us perform or do things for the betterment of another species.

Second Assumption
Leaving the "God" question out of it. Let's try to go down the rabbit hole that another species created us. I would refute such a premise by pointing out a few things:

There is no evidence of any near-by non-human race or civilization which could travel to Earth without huge expenditures of time and energy. Our species is uniquely tailored to every aspect of Earth, down to the cellular and even elemental level, and we are not likely to have evolved or have been created on some other planet.

Even assuming that some species did create us, we seem to have "free will" and are not performing any type of robotic functions to benefit any other race. So, to what end are we AI Bots performing functions for another species? There is no evidence of this at all.

Who created our creators? At some point, there would have to be a species that was not created by any other species (taking God out of the equation for a moment). So, in examining this we must conclude that our creators evolved naturally (again, taking the Divine out of the discussion), but we did not. This is a paradox, as there are no signs that we were created by another species, and any other creator-species (or their creators, on and on) at some point would have had to spring forth and develop on its own. So, if this can happen to others, why could it not have happened to Humans?

Therefore, based on logic because 1) there is no evidence that Humans were created as Bots to perform some useful function for another species; 2) We appear to have free will to chart our own destinies within the confines of our own existence; and 3) at some point the creators could not have been created by others, I surmise that we were not created bots by and for an alien species.

As usual, your post are well thought out. Very nice.

1) But evidence is in the perspective of our lens. Are ants (or any insects) aware that there is more land than the one they occupy? Are they aware of different species in China? They are only aware of the evidence from the lens of being an ant. Likewise, we are only aware of any species from the human lens. Can we prove that we are all not in some larger container possessed by a higher species? Ants think the world is contained in what is around them.

2) This is what leads to my thought experiment. Our DNA programs each of us. It dictates our behavior and thoughts. We don't dictate our DNA, it was programmed in us. Therefore, how much free will do we really have if we were born with a priori programmed system?

3) I see no reason why a creator could not be created by others. We are creating AI bots, that in of itself proves, it to be possible.

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...