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*Roshambo » 01 Jul 2026, 6:01 pm » wrote: WRONG

President Obama’s withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 was largely driven by the expiration of a 2008 security agreement and the failure to secure legal immunities for U.S. personnel, rather than purely on the belief that the country was entirely self-sufficient.

Chat GPT:Yes. That statement is broadly accurate, though the phrase "largely driven" simplifies a decision that involved both legal and political factors.Here's the historical context:
  • In 2008, the administration of George W. Bush negotiated a U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government. The agreement required U.S. combat forces to leave Iraqi cities by mid-2009 and all U.S. forces to withdraw by December 31, 2011.
  • After Barack Obama took office, his administration explored the possibility of keeping a residual U.S. force in Iraq beyond 2011.
  • A key obstacle was legal immunity. The United States insisted that any troops remaining would need protections from Iraqi criminal jurisdiction. Iraqi political leaders were unwilling or unable to secure parliamentary approval for such immunities.
  • Without a new agreement providing those legal protections, the Obama administration concluded that keeping troops in Iraq was not feasible, and the withdrawal proceeded on schedule at the end of 2011.
Regarding whether Obama believed Iraq was fully self-sufficient:
  • Obama and senior officials did express optimism that Iraqi security forces had become more capable and that Iraq had made significant progress.
  • However, the administration did not base the withdrawal solely on the belief that Iraq was completely self-sufficient. Officials generally acknowledged that Iraq still faced security and political challenges.
  • The inability to negotiate a follow-on agreement—including troop immunities—was widely recognized by participants and historians as a decisive factor in why no residual U.S. force remained after 2011.
So, if you were evaluating the statement for accuracy, a fair assessment would be:

 @Cannonpointer
ALL BS aside... The Chronology is CLEAR:ISIS Timeline:Obama Administration (2009–2017)
  • U.S. withdrawal completed in December 2011. ***
  • ISIS expands dramatically during 2013–2014.
  • Mosul falls in June 2014.
  • U.S.-led coalition air campaign begins August 2014.
Trump Administration (2017–2021)
  • Mosul liberated July 2017.
  • Iraq declares ISIS territorially defeated in December 2017.
  • Final ISIS territorial holdings in Syria eliminated in 2019.
In a NUTSHELL:

-  Obama with-drew U.S. Forces in 2011, ISIS invaded Iraq in 2013-14, Obama didn't do much else thru 2016...

-  Trump won the 2016 election, THEN came in and WENT AFTER ISIS in 2017, Liberated Mosul in 2017, and Iraq declared victory in 2017... THEN, ISIS was defeated in Syria by 2019 !


SO, in a nutshell... it doesn't take a ROCKET Scientist  to see WHAT HAPPENED.  Obama STARTED it, and TRUMP FINISHED it !!

 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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